HM Advancement

kforbs126 · 11-18-2013, 08:54 AM

HM is one of the hardest rates to advance. A lot of people and it takes a long time to advance.

sweetmtn · 11-18-2013, 10:53 AM

It is VERY rare to advance 2 levels in bootcamp...but you can advance prior to going if you get a certain amount of people to enlist before you go. So if you talk to your recruiter, see if you have time to get others to sign up and then you can go to boot as an E2. Then it is just a matter of time in grade to get to E3. As far as advancing higher..you will qualify to advance to E4 after a while just for time in grade, but you will have to test for it, and then there has to be the numbers they need. It works on a percentage. Lets say they need 100 new E4 HM's, and 130 pass the test...those with the highest scores, AND longer time in, AND points from like having done volunteer work or taken college classes online that year, etc. So only 100 will be promoted, the others will have to wait and test again on the next go around. Hope this helps!

delucabv23 · 11-18-2013, 11:55 AM

Thanks sweetmtn that helps

Im just nervous because i'm not really all that book smart, just a hard worker, big studier so hopefully I'll get the numbers they need to advance. Thanks again!

jzhaun · 11-18-2013, 12:17 PM

Yeah, you'll probably see it when you go to bootcamp - there are a lot of E2 or E3 HMs working at medical there. They weren't new arrivals either, some had been to a school etc come back for several years. The bigger the rate is, the harder it is to advance.

Diesirae27 · 11-18-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kforbs126

HM is one of the hardest rates to advance. A lot of people and it takes a long time to advance.

Well...doesn't that suck for me. Any indication of advancement for HMDAs though?

kforbs126 · 11-18-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesirae27

Well...doesn't that suck for me. Any indication of advancement for HMDAs though?

Its all the same rate.

sweetmtn · 11-18-2013, 09:57 PM

Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.

Diesirae27 · 11-18-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetmtn

Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.

The greater the competition the better i perform. Doesn't stop me from being a worry wort while I have nothing to do but WAIT

Going to my recruiter tomorrow to ask for a DAR. Long shots sometimes pay off right?

FutureHM · 11-19-2013, 12:39 AM

Have a family friend who made chief in 12 years as a HM. Honestly, if you just work 110%, do the jobs no one else wants to do, and show that you an get stuff done, then you'll show up more than those who have the same rate as you.

My father made chief in 9 years. His whole life was family < work, but he did it so he can support our family. He's a O-3 now and still kicking ass.

HMYert · 11-20-2013, 10:00 AM

I spoke to my Chief yesterday about advancement in HM. He said it is only difficult in certain NEC's. Your NEC's will also help determine your advancement. He even showed me a recent promotions list for HM's that showed it broken down for the different NEC's. I found a CREO list for HM NEC's and if you are in an undermanned NEC within HM you have a better chance of being promoted. I didn't think you NEC would matter but my Chief showing me the breakdown on the Promotions list proved that it does. He did also tell me that if you are in a a NEC that is labeled as critical you can pretty much count on only doing that job for your entire Navy career. I want to be a HM-8452 Xray Tech, it is labeled critical so that is what I would be doing for my 20+ years and is also undermanned so better shot of being promoted.

delucabv23 · 11-20-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesirae27

The greater the competition the better i perform. Doesn't stop me from being a worry wort while I have nothing to do but WAIT

Going to my recruiter tomorrow to ask for a DAR. Long shots sometimes pay off right?

I received a call yesterday about HM opening on december 2nd...the slot is open but I cant fill the slot because HM for december apparently its over quota from HM already....this is my SECOND call ive gotten to leave early thats resulted in no where so far....dont get your hopes up

Diesirae27 · 11-20-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by delucabv23

I received a call yesterday about HM opening on december 2nd...the slot is open but I cant fill the slot because HM for december apparently its over quota from HM already....this is my SECOND call ive gotten to leave early thats resulted in no where so far....dont get your hopes up

Quotas are set by region according to my classifier...He also said that the region has over sold HMs for the quarter. Ah well. My 3rd daughter will be born in December. I just spent more time with her.

Pyro_Av8r · 06-01-2014, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by delucabv23

I received a call yesterday about HM opening on december 2nd...the slot is open but I cant fill the slot because HM for december apparently its over quota from HM already....this is my SECOND call ive gotten to leave early thats resulted in no where so far....dont get your hopes up

Lol I think I took that slot for HM cuz I got my contract that day for HM, still waiting to leave 20140618!

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11-18-2013, 08:54 AM	#1
kforbs126 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 943 Rep Power: 0	HM is one of the hardest rates to advance. A lot of people and it takes a long time to advance.

11-18-2013, 10:53 AM	#2
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,792 Rep Power: 0	It is VERY rare to advance 2 levels in bootcamp...but you can advance prior to going if you get a certain amount of people to enlist before you go. So if you talk to your recruiter, see if you have time to get others to sign up and then you can go to boot as an E2. Then it is just a matter of time in grade to get to E3. As far as advancing higher..you will qualify to advance to E4 after a while just for time in grade, but you will have to test for it, and then there has to be the numbers they need. It works on a percentage. Lets say they need 100 new E4 HM's, and 130 pass the test...those with the highest scores, AND longer time in, AND points from like having done volunteer work or taken college classes online that year, etc. So only 100 will be promoted, the others will have to wait and test again on the next go around. Hope this helps!

11-18-2013, 11:55 AM	#3
delucabv23 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Branford,CT Posts: 99 Rep Power: 0	Thanks sweetmtn that helps Im just nervous because i'm not really all that book smart, just a hard worker, big studier so hopefully I'll get the numbers they need to advance. Thanks again!

11-18-2013, 12:17 PM	#4
jzhaun Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 627 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, you'll probably see it when you go to bootcamp - there are a lot of E2 or E3 HMs working at medical there. They weren't new arrivals either, some had been to a school etc come back for several years. The bigger the rate is, the harder it is to advance.

11-18-2013, 09:57 PM	#7
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,792 Rep Power: 0	Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.

11-19-2013, 12:39 AM	#9
FutureHM Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	Have a family friend who made chief in 12 years as a HM. Honestly, if you just work 110%, do the jobs no one else wants to do, and show that you an get stuff done, then you'll show up more than those who have the same rate as you. My father made chief in 9 years. His whole life was family < work, but he did it so he can support our family. He's a O-3 now and still kicking ass.

11-20-2013, 10:00 AM	#10
HMYert Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	I spoke to my Chief yesterday about advancement in HM. He said it is only difficult in certain NEC's. Your NEC's will also help determine your advancement. He even showed me a recent promotions list for HM's that showed it broken down for the different NEC's. I found a CREO list for HM NEC's and if you are in an undermanned NEC within HM you have a better chance of being promoted. I didn't think you NEC would matter but my Chief showing me the breakdown on the Promotions list proved that it does. He did also tell me that if you are in a a NEC that is labeled as critical you can pretty much count on only doing that job for your entire Navy career. I want to be a HM-8452 Xray Tech, it is labeled critical so that is what I would be doing for my 20+ years and is also undermanned so better shot of being promoted.