Failed CTN or CTR School??

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by jbpr77

Greetings,

I'm know that YNS is specific job on submarine and this is the reason for that I want this rate. Can I choose a specific submarine class on Sub School, such as SSBN submarine?. Any information about this question I'll be very gratefull.

Regards,

JGB

1st tour sailors usually are assigned to what we call "needs of the Navy", aka they put you where you're needed. Although if they've got enough people they can start being more flexible and you might be able to pick. It really just comes down to what rate you are and what that manning looks like. Some folks get to choose and others have their choices made for them. It's luck of the draw in most cases.

If you stick around for a 2nd enlistment, that's when you really get a lot more freedom in picking where you go.

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CTT1

[jbpr77]

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin

1st tour sailors usually are assigned to what we call "needs of the Navy", aka they put you where you're needed. Although if they've got enough people they can start being more flexible and you might be able to pick. It really just comes down to what rate you are and what that manning looks like. Some folks get to choose and others have their choices made for them. It's luck of the draw in most cases.

If you stick around for a 2nd enlistment, that's when you really get a lot more freedom in picking where you go.

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CTT1

Actually, I feel a little confused about which job I should select, the best job for my family and our future. Because this is a big change and I think this is the most challenging decision in our lives. I want to be a YNS with the hope that I can choose only one submarine class, SSBN, because this class does not deploy a long time such as other classes. Also I want to being on CT's community due to the greatest opportunities that I would have in the civil area. I read a lot of reviews in many articles about CT's jobs and school. People say that CTN and CTR school, JCAC, is one of the most hard Navy school and not many people can graduate from it. When I will go to MEPS, if I get a CTN job offer, can I choose CTN rate if I do not have any experience in a computer area?. Because that's my biggest concern about choosing this job which is very important in the Navy. I don't have computer knowledge, only the basic things as many people know, emails, search information, videos, Microsoft Word, etc. You know, all of us already have those basic knowledge. Also I read a little about it's study environment, closed classroom, all class materials stay on classroom not with you, you have little study and review time. Instead of brain, you need to have a computer!. How difficult it's this school for someone who does not have previous experience in the area?.

Regards,

JGB

[sweetmtn]

MEPS and the Navy wont care what experience you have had..the rate/jobs offered will go strictly on your line scores from your ASVAB test.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by jbpr77

When I will go to MEPS, if I get a CTN job offer, can I choose CTN rate if I do not have any experience in a computer area?

Absolutely. That's the entire reason we have training commands; to teach you these new skills. It's also a reason the Navy is a great option, because you can get paid to learn a new skill or trade.

Originally Posted by jbpr77

I don't have computer knowledge, only the basic things as many people know, emails, search information, videos, Microsoft Word, etc. You know, all of us already have those basic knowledge. Also I read a little about it's study environment, closed classroom, all class materials stay on classroom not with you, you have little study and review time. Instead of brain, you need to have a computer!. How difficult it's this school for someone who does not have previous experience in the area?.

You're correct that most of the material you're working on in class isn't something you can take home with you, but they will make plenty of time for you to come in and study so don't worry about that. If you want to study, somebody will help make that happen.

JCAC has one of the highest drop rates in the Navy. The reason for this is because it's a lot of new things for most people and it's very fast paced. Also, not everyone has the right mind for this kind of work. What I mean by that is that someone might be very smart, but computers and networks work in a very specific way. Not everyone can understand it as quickly as the class needs you to.

If you're not very comfortable with technology then I wouldn't recommend this rate to you unless you're EXTREMELY passionate about it. Don't just pick a job for money, pick something you can really be happy doing. If you're interested and involved in what you do then your life will be much happier.

CTR on the other hand does not require as deep of a technical understanding (at least not at the start of your career). So if you're new to technology, I would recommend that before I would CTN. You still get all the benefits of doing this kind of job and you have a SIGNIFICANTLY higher chance of passing the school.

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CTT1

[jabONE]

There is actually only one classified module in the entirety of JCAC where you have to leave your books in the schoolhouse. The rest of it is unclassified and you can take your study materials home with you and study as much as you want in your off time. And believe me, you certainly will need it as CTT1 said, it is a very difficult school.

[Barbazu]

As I mentioned previously, some people that I felt would never make it through JCAC were amazing at it. And some, including myself, that I thought would breeze through it got dropped. There's no formula for knowing if you'll make it. And it's not that the material is that difficult. It's that it is so fast paced that it's easy to get left behind. That's what happened with me. I believe I could have made it through, but I failed one test and the class kept going. So I was learning new material and trying to get an understanding of the material I failed at the same time. It was too much. Before I knew it I was cleaning toilets and getting shipped to another school.

As CTN2 said, you get study guides that you can take home with you to study. I still have mine. I didn't make it far enough to get into the classified stuff, but from what I understand 99% of what you learn is not classified. You'll be briefed on some sensitive stuff, but that's really to just get you excited about the job more than it contributes to your learning.

If you choose CTN, the best advice I can give you is to start learning to think like a computer. Logic and discrete mathematics are your friend. Also, when you get to Corry Station, don't get caught up in the hoopla of having a good time in Pensacola while you're in holding waiting on your clearance. Work, exercise, and rest. JCAC will hit you like a freight train from the very beginning. If you're accustomed to "having a good time" in Pensacola then you'll be sorely disappointed when all that ends on the first day of class. Your time will spent at school, studying in your room, and standing watch. If you try to do anything other than that you'll likely fail.

[jabONE]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

As I mentioned previously, some people that I felt would never make it through JCAC were amazing at it. And some, including myself, that I thought would breeze through it got dropped. There's no formula for knowing if you'll make it. And it's not that the material is that difficult. It's that it is so fast paced that it's easy to get left behind. That's what happened with me. I believe I could have made it through, but I failed one test and the class kept going. So I was learning new material and trying to get an understanding of the material I failed at the same time. It was too much. Before I knew it I was cleaning toilets and getting shipped to another school.

As CTN2 said, you get study guides that you can take home with you to study. I still have mine. I didn't make it far enough to get into the classified stuff, but from what I understand 99% of what you learn is not classified. You'll be briefed on some sensitive stuff, but that's really to just get you excited about the job more than it contributes to your learning.

If you choose CTN, the best advice I can give you is to start learning to think like a computer. Logic and discrete mathematics are your friend. Also, when you get to Corry Station, don't get caught up in the hoopla of having a good time in Pensacola while you're in holding waiting on your clearance. Work, exercise, and rest. JCAC will hit you like a freight train from the very beginning. If you're accustomed to "having a good time" in Pensacola then you'll be sorely disappointed when all that ends on the first day of class. Your time will spent at school, studying in your room, and standing watch. If you try to do anything other than that you'll likely fail.

Sorry you did not make it man. I had a hard time in JCAC in the beginning much like you did. I failed the first mod twice and got fortunate due to career circumstances to get a third test. I passed it and then struggled for the next couple mods until I got the hang of it. I eventually got to a point where I comfortably made it through. I did not fail another test after that initial double tap, but I certainly was stressed through the rest of JCAC. I made it through though. It certainly will pass you by if you are not grasping the material though.

For all you future CTN's, I had no prior knowledge or experience with computers other than being a standard user so prior knowledge is not necessary. Just the ability to study hard and learn fast. Ask questions frequently and seek out extra help if you need it. If you are unsure about a topic or concept, ask for help or clarification. Do not assume you understood it.

[Barbazu]

Thanks CTN2! I really wanted CTN, but it wasn't in the cards for me. I double tapped the second mod and the ARB voted me down two to one. But I was completely honest with them. I told them I'm a self-paced learner and I didn't think I could keep up with the pace. I told them I had no doubt that I could learn the job, and probably excel at it, but there was no way I could learn that stuff as quickly as they require. So I rolled the dice and got stuck with PS. It's a great rate, but not for me. I'm just waiting to rerate at this point. Haha!