More CTN Reserve Questions

[Barbazu]

So, for all future JCAC students... I made it to Mod 2 and I'm probably getting dropped. CTN is difficult. They throw so much info at you that if you're not a super fast learner then you're screwed. My advice is to study up on logic and programming. Particularly C++. The programming part isn't that difficult (for me, anyway), but the logic stuff is ridiculous. There is a 40% drop out rate on the second mod. It's serious business.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

So, for all future JCAC students... I made it to Mod 2 and I'm probably getting dropped. CTN is difficult. They throw so much info at you that if you're not a super fast learner then you're screwed. My advice is to study up on logic and programming. Particularly C++. The programming part isn't that difficult (for me, anyway), but the logic stuff is ridiculous. There is a 40% drop out rate on the second mod. It's serious business.

I'm sorry to hear that bud =/ Keep pushing if you're still in the class though. Don't give up!

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[IdeaGuy]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

So, for all future JCAC students... I made it to Mod 2 and I'm probably getting dropped. CTN is difficult. They throw so much info at you that if you're not a super fast learner then you're screwed. My advice is to study up on logic and programming. Particularly C++. The programming part isn't that difficult (for me, anyway), but the logic stuff is ridiculous. There is a 40% drop out rate on the second mod. It's serious business.

I am a Software Developer, web development in particular. I didn't even
know C++ was still being used in the real world. I learned it in college
but soon realized that Garbage Collection Languages like C#/Java are
far easier and have just as much access to the hardware, I think.

I really don't know much about Networking though. I do know that I depend
on Microsoft Azure or Amazon Web Services or Google Cloud to defend the
software I write and deploy to their servers. I just assume if someone tried
to hack anything i made these companies have people far smarter than me
to defend the code. I really don't know much about networking though.

I do wonder why C++ is still being used by the Navy. Hmm. idk

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by IdeaGuy

I do wonder why C++ is still being used by the Navy. Hmm. idk

C# and Java are great to know as well. But most serious exploit kits and malware today, at least at the high cyber crime and nation state level, are typically done in C/C++ and assembly.

Although I did see this Spanish dude at DEFCON made a really badass java botnet haha So it's not impossible.

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[hustini]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

So, for all future JCAC students... I made it to Mod 2 and I'm probably getting dropped. CTN is difficult. They throw so much info at you that if you're not a super fast learner then you're screwed. My advice is to study up on logic and programming. Particularly C++. The programming part isn't that difficult (for me, anyway), but the logic stuff is ridiculous. There is a 40% drop out rate on the second mod. It's serious business.

Well I will be there in about 3 months. :D


Looking forward to the fight, though.

Ive been looking at Quizlet to see what kinds of terms they are getting into during the different mods. OBVIOUSLY I'm not assuming that quizlet is the end-all source for what JCAC is all about but it gives me a pretty good sense of what each module is going to cover.

lol i have a feeling some peeps have been busted posting some classified stuff on there

[jabONE]

Originally Posted by hustini

Well I will be there in about 3 months. :D


Looking forward to the fight, though.

Ive been looking at Quizlet to see what kinds of terms they are getting into during the different mods. OBVIOUSLY I'm not assuming that quizlet is the end-all source for what JCAC is all about but it gives me a pretty good sense of what each module is going to cover.

lol i have a feeling some peeps have been busted posting some classified stuff on there

Most of the JCAC material is unclassified so it is not that people would get in trouble for posting classified info per se but more so that it could be looked at as cheating depending. They take cheating very seriously at JCAC and will academically suspend anyone even suspected of cheating whether there is credible proof or not until final determination is made. If theyou determine cheating took place then you are automatically dropped and potentially face administrative action which can result in getting kicked out of the Navy. At any rate, JCAC is hard but not impossible. I struggled for the first few mods, Mods 2-4. I double tapped Mod 2 and was fortunate enough to get a 2nd retest which I barely passed but once I got my study habits down better I was able to make it through with very little trouble. It is all about how well you take in information quickly and how well and how much you study. Discipline to making it through JCAC is the single biggest factor on whether anyone will make it or not, as everyone sent there has the aptitude for it.

[Barbazu]

Even though I double tapped Mod 2 and was sent packing I learned quickly that the source of classified info isn't in what you learn so much as what you're told about what CTNs actually do. With the exception of maybe two mods most of the material can be googled. However, when you're briefed on the inner workings of the rate you've stepped into classified stuffs. It's best if you just forget about it as soon as you walk out of the compound.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

Even though I double tapped Mod 2 and was sent packing I learned quickly that the source of classified info isn't in what you learn so much as what you're told about what CTNs actually do. With the exception of maybe two mods most of the material can be googled. However, when you're briefed on the inner workings of the rate you've stepped into classified stuffs. It's best if you just forget about it as soon as you walk out of the compound.

You've only baaaaarely scratched the surface while you're training.
A-school is just the very basics you'll need to start learning the job.

But this isn't the place to be talking about what's classified, what's not, and why/why not.

Any news on where you're headed next?

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[hustini]

Originally Posted by jabONE

Most of the JCAC material is unclassified so it is not that people would get in trouble for posting classified info per se but more so that it could be looked at as cheating depending. They take cheating very seriously at JCAC and will academically suspend anyone even suspected of cheating whether there is credible proof or not until final determination is made. If theyou determine cheating took place then you are automatically dropped and potentially face administrative action which can result in getting kicked out of the Navy. At any rate, JCAC is hard but not impossible. I struggled for the first few mods, Mods 2-4. I double tapped Mod 2 and was fortunate enough to get a 2nd retest which I barely passed but once I got my study habits down better I was able to make it through with very little trouble. It is all about how well you take in information quickly and how well and how much you study. Discipline to making it through JCAC is the single biggest factor on whether anyone will make it or not, as everyone sent there has the aptitude for it.

What kind of study habits did you get yourself into that allowed you to improve? I'm 33 so I won't be looking at getting into any trouble when I'm down there, those days are behind me. I'm more curious to know which study habits work best when the information coming in is like drinking from a fire hose.

[futuresailorCTN]

hustini, the best advice I can give is to work together with others in your class. Classes that study together stay together. In my class, we only dropped 2 of the original 16 (1 of which didn't want to be there anyway) and finished with an average GPA over 90. We always met up before tests to study together, and make sure that everyone was on track. Flashcards are also a really good idea for material-heavy sections. Also, take advantage of voluntary study time whenever possible, or if you feel like you're falling behind. Don't get too psyched out about the course, because trust me you'll hear plenty of horror stories from people once you make it to Florida. It's really just about how much work you put into it more than anything else.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by futuresailorCTN

hustini, the best advice I can give is to work together with others in your class. Classes that study together stay together. In my class, we only dropped 2 of the original 16 (1 of which didn't want to be there anyway) and finished with an average GPA over 90. We always met up before tests to study together, and make sure that everyone was on track. Flashcards are also a really good idea for material-heavy sections. Also, take advantage of voluntary study time whenever possible, or if you feel like you're falling behind. Don't get too psyched out about the course, because trust me you'll hear plenty of horror stories from people once you make it to Florida. It's really just about how much work you put into it more than anything else.

ONE TEAM, ONE FIGHT!!

This is EXACTLY the kind of mentality I look for in junior sailors. Outstanding; keep it up and way to help bring up those around you!!

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[Jeff]

Just back from JCAC. Yes, its tough. Make sure your class studies together, hangs out together. Our class actually graduated all of its NAVY with honors!! we would go to mand/volo everyday, we'd all eat and hang out and run errands with eachother. our sister class had a bunch of in-fighting and several people rolled out of there.. Those who passed, started to hang out with our class and did better. That being said, I studied 6 days a week. (never Saturday, you still need at least 1 day to decompress) before JCAC i knew next to nothing about computers, they will give you a laptop to use during your time there, make use of it. check out codecademy and practice some commands. Its an intense, but fulfilling a-school. and enjoy the beach at least once =)