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Old 06-25-2015, 10:14 PM   #1
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The one Nuke guy in my DEP pool is completely self-absorbed and very obnoxious, but that could be simply because he's still a kid and just graduated high school. The other high school graduates aren't like that, though, so I don't know if it's just a nuke thing or what. He likes to think he's something special because he's going nuke and will be E-3.
To be fair he must have done something well to get nuke, and humbleness isn't required.
If he's real rude, just call him out on it. I'm sure everyone else thinks the same as you.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:32 PM   #2
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I disagree, nobody is special in the military, and just because someone is in DEP as a nuke doesn't mean humility isn't required or you can be a dick. NUC or BM, we're all in the same boat.

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Old 06-26-2015, 03:43 AM   #3
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To be fair he must have done something well to get nuke, and humbleness isn't required.
If he's real rude, just call him out on it. I'm sure everyone else thinks the same as you.
He tested well - that's about it. He's too young to really have any big issues for a security clearance and he's willing to go into arguably the military's toughest pipeline school. That doesn't make him better than any other [future] sailor, nor does it grant him a pass to act as such.

The best word I can use to describe him is that he's arrogant, which I suppose comes with the territory of his being 18 years old. Even with him starting as an E-3, I'll outrank him in a year anyway and, come my ship date, will very likely never see him again.
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E-3s and below are all called e-nothing's. All an e-3 gets is a little extra pay a month. I hope he goes to boot with the same attitude because it will be shot down quickly by his RDCs. And if it doesn't happen, he's going to get to a school where everyone has the same rate and he's going to get a reality shock that he isn't special.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:42 PM   #5
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Even with him starting as an E-3, I'll outrank him in a year anyway and, come my ship date, will very likely never see him again.
I'm not sure what rate you have, but not many rates advance as fast a nukes.
This past cycle ETN grp 1's made E-6 100%, MMN grp 1's made E-6 at 86% and EMN's grp 1 made E-6 at 80%
Nukes also Enter as E-3, and get push-button E-4 after A-school.
So unless he ships far later than you, without me knowing your rate, I'm guessing you won't "outrank him in a year". Also remember, regularly, there are time requirements for making rank. 9 months for e-2 and e-3, 6 months for e-4 and a year for e-5.

But, I suppose you are right when you said you'll likely never see him again.
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This past cycle ETN grp 1's made E-6 100%, MMN grp 1's made E-6 at 86% and EMN's grp 1 made E-6 at 80%

What comprises a group, surely not all ETN E-5s made E-6? And what duration constitutes a cycle?
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A cycle is 6 months (spring and fall). Here are the group breakdowns:
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I'm not sure what rate you have, but not many rates advance as fast a nukes.
This past cycle ETN grp 1's made E-6 100%, MMN grp 1's made E-6 at 86% and EMN's grp 1 made E-6 at 80%
Nukes also Enter as E-3, and get push-button E-4 after A-school.
So unless he ships far later than you, without me knowing your rate, I'm guessing you won't "outrank him in a year". Also remember, regularly, there are time requirements for making rank. 9 months for e-2 and e-3, 6 months for e-4 and a year for e-5.

But, I suppose you are right when you said you'll likely never see him again.
I'll be getting push-button E-4 after "A" School if I have time in rate, and I'm pushing for E-3 through referrals. If I don't snag 'em, I'll still be getting E-2 at the end of boot (cutting 7 months off the promotion never hurts).
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Nukes, an interesting group of sailors...yes they can be a bit different than many other sailors...my son went nuke, (he is civilian now) and was actually a jock! He totally didn't fit in with the stereo type of a nuke...he was a jock all through school, (football, basketball, soccer and track) AND in all the AP classes...so a smart jock. He found his nitch, but also found he was put in the place of being in charge of making all the others do PT. As far as going out to "party" when you pull into some port somewhere, yup...many do and get totally hammered! He was on a carrier and never really made friends outside the nuke department...to this day he still is a "smart jock" he does all sorts of sports and now is in charge of 3 power plants, 2 in Texas and 1 in New Mexico for Xcel Energy....he too went in right out of high school at age 18.
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The people here aren't too bad.. As long as you go outside.. the real crazy ones stay in their rooms and play card games, video games, role playing games, or any other game that allows them to be social in a very small tight group.
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That sounds fairly normal then, in my experience it's like that everywhere.
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The people here aren't too bad.. As long as you go outside.. the real crazy ones stay in their rooms and play card games, video games, role playing games, or any other game that allows them to be social in a very small tight group.
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For what it's worth, the kids hiding in their barracks room playing WoW know how to stay out of trouble better than the bar-hopping crowd (worked great for me!).
I am one of these kids. Throughout High School I didn't have much of a social life and that allowed me to stay out of trouble.
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