Leadership Positions

[Tay]

Originally Posted by FutureND

If you want a position then go for it, don't wait for someone else to fail because they may not. Do what you think is best for you, but don't be a pu**y about it

It's inevitable. Did you volunteer for something?

[FutureND]

Yes, rpoc, and I was there till the end.

[Tay]

Originally Posted by FutureND

Yes, rpoc, and I was there till the end.

Good for you, but all situations aren't the same

[Tay]

This point of this thread was for people to tell their stories of why Rpoc and Aroc was getting dropped in their division so I could see what not to do.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by Tay

This point of this thread was for people to tell their stories of why Rpoc and Aroc was getting dropped in their division so I could see what not to do.

It's arbitrary. We had guys get fired purely just to make an example that they could be. They didn't screw anything up, they would just get sacked publicly to scare everyone else. What we're trying to say is that none of it matters anyway, so don't sweat it. If you're in one of those positions then you need to be exceeding all standards all of the time. But even then, you can get sacked just for the hell of it. Once you're in the Fleet, or shoot even A-school, none of that will matter anyway.

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CTT1

[FutureND]

It's about leadership. A leader is not someone who sits back and watches someone else fail. I was good at my job not because I am a super extraordinary leader, but because I looked out for my men and had their backs, and in turn they had mine.

[LT Guppy]

Originally Posted by Tay

Good for you, but all situations aren't the same

Originally Posted by Tay

This point of this thread was for people to tell their stories of why Rpoc and Aroc was getting dropped in their division so I could see what not to do.

Boot camp is a game. One where you don't know all the rules and they change whenever the RDCs feel like it. You're not going to do yourself any favors by trying to outsmart the system.

[Tay]

Originally Posted by Guppy

Boot camp is a game. One where you don't know all the rules and they change whenever the RDCs feel like it. You're not going to do yourself any favors by trying to outsmart the system.

I'm not trying to outsmart the system. I understand that boot camp is a game. All I wanted to know is do the high up positions got dropped for things like not having the room clean.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by Tay

I'm not trying to outsmart the system. I understand that boot camp is a game. All I wanted to know is do the high up positions got dropped for things like not having the room clean.

Absolutely. Or not getting it cleaned fast enough, or if Recruit Timmy farted and it smells weird now, or maybe they just axe you even if it is clean.

What we're saying is it doesn't matter if you would get dropped for something or not; they may or may not just axe someone for something that may or may not even exist. You could do everything perfectly and still get axed. So contemplating what will or will not keep you as an RPOC/AROC is kind of a pointless exercise since literally anything and everything falls into that category.

Focus more on learning and getting as much out of the training as you can, the rest will fall into place and is mostly out of your hands.

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CTT1

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by Tay

Good for you, but all situations aren't the same

Didn't see this until LTJG posted above, but if you want input from Sailors, this is not a great way to go about it.

/r
CTT1

[Tay]

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin

Didn't see this until LTJG posted above, but if you want input from Sailors, this is not a great way to go about it.

/r
CTT1

I know that once boot camp is all over it won't matter.

You say if I want input from Sailors, this is not a great way to go about it. Instead of answering the simple question I had everybody on this thread just wanted to preach. Only abouts 2 comments were helpful.

[Auridan]

Originally Posted by Tay

It's inevitable. Did you volunteer for something?

Strongly recommend you don't talk to active duty folks as if you already know exactly what's going to happen.

You seem to be under the impression that by "learning from others' mistakes", you can be the "perfect" RCPO. It won't happen. RDCs are going to be just as interested in your failures, and how you handle them, as your successes.

If you want to get advanced in boot camp, be excellent at whatever you do, own your mistakes WHEN (not if) you make them, and help others if they need it. Don't slack off if you get an unglamorous job, either. If you get assigned Toilet Paper Petty Officer (we had one: his job was to make sure every roll in the head was stocked and dressed just so at all times), you keep those rolls in perfect condition and you do it with pride.

If your best efforts don't get you advanced, get over it and move on. Sometimes even your best work goes ignored. If you give up because of that, you don't deserve the credit anyway.

[Tay]

Originally Posted by Auridan

Strongly recommend you don't talk to active duty folks as if you already know exactly what's going to happen.

You seem to be under the impression that by "learning from others' mistakes", you can be the "perfect" RCPO. It won't happen. RDCs are going to be just as interested in your failures, and how you handle them, as your successes.

If you want to get advanced in boot camp, be excellent at whatever you do, own your mistakes WHEN (not if) you make them, and help others if they need it. Don't slack off if you get an unglamorous job, either. If you get assigned Toilet Paper Petty Officer (we had one: his job was to make sure every roll in the head was stocked and dressed just so at all times), you keep those rolls in perfect condition and you do it with pride.

If your best efforts don't get you advanced, get over it and move on. Sometimes even your best work goes ignored. If you give up because of that, you don't deserve the credit anyway.

You say this as if you know exactly what's going to happen.

If I had the position I would give it my all, but If I knew the ropes to this job good then my all my work would sum up better than if I didn't have a clue. And I never said anything about giving up.