More SB rating info stuff...

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by ProDad

Yes, good to know that. He has time to think this through and prepare physically for the training. But he has to motivate himself more for that.
One other question. Say he gets to Boot, volunteers for SB. What is the process? Do they do additional evaluations on fitness and abilities and either accept him or not? If not accepted, no change then, right? He is still AECF? And, if he passes the evaluations and is given the opportunity, can he decide at stay AEFC, or take the challenge? I understand if he takes the challenge and washes out, that he then goes "best use of the Navy. Guess that is more than one question. Sorry

You wouldn't be volunteering at boot. Once you ship for boot camp you're going to go through the program you signed up for and can apply once you're in the Fleet. At that time, the rating adviser and community managers of both SB and your current rate will decide if A) They'll let you go, B) The new rate will take you, and C) When that would happen. If he wants to do it now or right away then the only sure thing of making that happening is switching before you ship. If he waits till after he's in the Navy (IE ships for boot) then it'll probably be a couple years before they'll let him apply.

With that, here is how that would all play out if he fails:

Switches before he leaves: If you switch to SB before you leave, and then fail out, you don't have anything to fall back on. You will be needs of the Navy and they will either just assign you a rate or possibly let you pick from whatever might be available right then that you qualify for. Some guys get lucky and get a decent rate and others are just assigned something like Undesignated/PACT. It's all luck of the draw really and nothing you do will influence what happens, so realize if you fail out then it's a toss up. Seen hundreds of dudes go both ways.

Goes AECF, gets a rate, then applies while in the Fleet, before ultimately failing out: You would just get assigned back as whatever rate you were before. For example; if you were an FC, went to SB training and failed, then you would just go back to being an FC somewhere.

/r
CTT1

[ProDad]

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin

You wouldn't be volunteering at boot. Once you ship for boot camp you're going to go through the program you signed up for and can apply once you're in the Fleet. At that time, the rating adviser and community managers of both SB and your current rate will decide if A) They'll let you go, B) The new rate will take you, and C) When that would happen. If he wants to do it now or right away then the only sure thing of making that happening is switching before you ship. If he waits till after he's in the Navy (IE ships for boot) then it'll probably be a couple years before they'll let him apply.

With that, here is how that would all play out if he fails:

Switches before he leaves: If you switch to SB before you leave, and then fail out, you don't have anything to fall back on. You will be needs of the Navy and they will either just assign you a rate or possibly let you pick from whatever might be available right then that you qualify for. Some guys get lucky and get a decent rate and others are just assigned something like Undesignated/PACT. It's all luck of the draw really and nothing you do will influence what happens, so realize if you fail out then it's a toss up. Seen hundreds of dudes go both ways.

Goes AECF, gets a rate, then applies while in the Fleet, before ultimately failing out: You would just get assigned back as whatever rate you were before. For example; if you were an FC, went to SB training and failed, then you would just go back to being an FC somewhere.

/r
CTT1

Got it. Thanks for the clarity!

[E.MigZ]

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin

You wouldn't be volunteering at boot. Once you ship for boot camp you're going to go through the program you signed up for and can apply once you're in the Fleet. At that time, the rating adviser and community managers of both SB and your current rate will decide if A) They'll let you go, B) The new rate will take you, and C) When that would happen. If he wants to do it now or right away then the only sure thing of making that happening is switching before you ship. If he waits till after he's in the Navy (IE ships for boot) then it'll probably be a couple years before they'll let him apply.

With that, here is how that would all play out if he fails:

Switches before he leaves: If you switch to SB before you leave, and then fail out, you don't have anything to fall back on. You will be needs of the Navy and they will either just assign you a rate or possibly let you pick from whatever might be available right then that you qualify for. Some guys get lucky and get a decent rate and others are just assigned something like Undesignated/PACT. It's all luck of the draw really and nothing you do will influence what happens, so realize if you fail out then it's a toss up. Seen hundreds of dudes go both ways.

Goes AECF, gets a rate, then applies while in the Fleet, before ultimately failing out: You would just get assigned back as whatever rate you were before. For example; if you were an FC, went to SB training and failed, then you would just go back to being an FC somewhere.

/r
CTT1

so if one were to fail/get dropped on performance or medical, then gets sent to fleet "Undesignated/PACT". Not get rolled or DoR.
Would he be able to still request and return back to NSW after the waiting period?
i believe at least 2 years?

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by E.MigZ

so if one were to fail/get dropped on performance or medical, then gets sent to fleet "Undesignated/PACT". Not get rolled or DoR.
Would he be able to still request and return back to NSW after the waiting period?
i believe at least 2 years?

Sailors dropped from a previous program and reclassified into PACT will receive PCS (permanent change of station) orders to their new command, at which point their PRD (projected rotation date) will be set 24 months after their arrival.

Once you're coming up on that PRD date, you would start applying for a designation/program. There are several ways to pick up a rate, so I wont chew your ear off on each one. But once you're in that window to start applying, that's when you would start looking at whatever program you want to shoot for.

That may be a lot of Navy jargon there, so let me know if I lost you anywhere haha

/r
CTT1